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	<description>Letting the air out</description>
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		<title>By: terip</title>
		<link>http://sevenels.net/blog/?p=229&#038;cpage=1#comment-5190</link>
		<dc:creator>terip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it depends on how you look at things. I am a tech (tech support, although I&#039;ve worked in IT before and was once a Help Desk supervisor). So it doesn&#039;t surprise me to find the anti-geeks here. On the other hand, I also find them out in the fiber world, where I&#039;ve spent a lot of my time the last few years. Lots of geeks also like things like spinning their own yarn or knitting. I love my Palm but hate cell phones. I&#039;ve adopted the Amish method of dealing with technology the last couple of years. I don&#039;t have internet at home. (Hey, I don&#039;t have electricity or a phone there either!) I live out of cell phone range. And that seems to free up a lot of time to do other things. When I&#039;m at work, I can still immerse myself in the web and multi-task.I think that we do better as humans, if we have that time away from all things geekish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it depends on how you look at things. I am a tech (tech support, although I&#8217;ve worked in IT before and was once a Help Desk supervisor). So it doesn&#8217;t surprise me to find the anti-geeks here. On the other hand, I also find them out in the fiber world, where I&#8217;ve spent a lot of my time the last few years. Lots of geeks also like things like spinning their own yarn or knitting. I love my Palm but hate cell phones. I&#8217;ve adopted the Amish method of dealing with technology the last couple of years. I don&#8217;t have internet at home. (Hey, I don&#8217;t have electricity or a phone there either!) I live out of cell phone range. And that seems to free up a lot of time to do other things. When I&#8217;m at work, I can still immerse myself in the web and multi-task.I think that we do better as humans, if we have that time away from all things geekish.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://sevenels.net/blog/?p=229&#038;cpage=1#comment-5182</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought of OCRing the text and maybe dropping it in as a comment, or as alternate image text (not sure what the word limit is there). OTOH, I&#039;m not sure I &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to be searchable. I&#039;ve noticed since I began typecasting that I get hit much less by the spambots. I suspect it&#039;s because I have Google periodically spider-crawling my site and their cached text is what the spambots target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought of OCRing the text and maybe dropping it in as a comment, or as alternate image text (not sure what the word limit is there). OTOH, I&#8217;m not sure I <i>want</i> to be searchable. I&#8217;ve noticed since I began typecasting that I get hit much less by the spambots. I suspect it&#8217;s because I have Google periodically spider-crawling my site and their cached text is what the spambots target.</p>
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		<title>By: OtherMichael</title>
		<link>http://sevenels.net/blog/?p=229&#038;cpage=1#comment-5180</link>
		<dc:creator>OtherMichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrm. But in what percentage are we the tech-curmudgeons? As a programmer, I get funny looks from all in the IT department for my cell-phone resistance and acoustic-couple modem by the side of my desk.

OTOH, another colleague is starting up a business placing old videogames into... places (as a way of providing a tax-deduction for his hobby of buying old videogames, primarily. But who knows where something like that leads).

I love my old typewriters, and I miss the dial tone. Heck, I miss the dial. My 2 bakelite phones have naught to plug into now. Maybe I should look into Skype, or something....


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On a related note, how are you planning on handling the inability-to-textually-search these type-casts?

That&#039;s a pain. Will you OCR them and drop it in invisibly, somehow?

I do like the semantic search aspects of the web. find this, find that. Everything is miscellaneous, and infinitively abstrusely organizable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrm. But in what percentage are we the tech-curmudgeons? As a programmer, I get funny looks from all in the IT department for my cell-phone resistance and acoustic-couple modem by the side of my desk.</p>
<p>OTOH, another colleague is starting up a business placing old videogames into&#8230; places (as a way of providing a tax-deduction for his hobby of buying old videogames, primarily. But who knows where something like that leads).</p>
<p>I love my old typewriters, and I miss the dial tone. Heck, I miss the dial. My 2 bakelite phones have naught to plug into now. Maybe I should look into Skype, or something&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>On a related note, how are you planning on handling the inability-to-textually-search these type-casts?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a pain. Will you OCR them and drop it in invisibly, somehow?</p>
<p>I do like the semantic search aspects of the web. find this, find that. Everything is miscellaneous, and infinitively abstrusely organizable.</p>
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		<title>By: olivander</title>
		<link>http://sevenels.net/blog/?p=229&#038;cpage=1#comment-5179</link>
		<dc:creator>olivander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl, I have to say that I for one welcome our social networking overlords. I&#039;m one who constantly craves new experiences and viewpoints, and through these social networking sites, I&#039;ve met an amazing variety of people from across the globe who have given me insights into cultures I otherwise would never have gotten.

Also, I tend to be not very good at socializing and making new friends. I&#039;ve always been a bit of an oddball, and wherever I&#039;ve lived there have been very few people who have &quot;clicked&quot; with me. But through the Internet, I&#039;ve made many friends who share my oddball interests that I doubt I ever would have encountered offline.

Like all things, social networking is good unless it&#039;s taken to an extreme. I&#039;ve known people who never leave the house--who are in fact practically agoraphobic--and are uninterested in anything that can&#039;t take place inside their computer.

CStanford, funny you should mention SCA. Though she&#039;s not a technical person, per se (unless you count that she uses Photoshop at work), she&#039;s a former SCA member and Civil War re-enactor. And I used to work with a dba who was heavily into SCA, to the point where he spent months handcrafting a chain-mail shirt for himself. I knew another person who designs computer chips who was SCA as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl, I have to say that I for one welcome our social networking overlords. I&#8217;m one who constantly craves new experiences and viewpoints, and through these social networking sites, I&#8217;ve met an amazing variety of people from across the globe who have given me insights into cultures I otherwise would never have gotten.</p>
<p>Also, I tend to be not very good at socializing and making new friends. I&#8217;ve always been a bit of an oddball, and wherever I&#8217;ve lived there have been very few people who have &#8220;clicked&#8221; with me. But through the Internet, I&#8217;ve made many friends who share my oddball interests that I doubt I ever would have encountered offline.</p>
<p>Like all things, social networking is good unless it&#8217;s taken to an extreme. I&#8217;ve known people who never leave the house&#8211;who are in fact practically agoraphobic&#8211;and are uninterested in anything that can&#8217;t take place inside their computer.</p>
<p>CStanford, funny you should mention SCA. Though she&#8217;s not a technical person, per se (unless you count that she uses Photoshop at work), she&#8217;s a former SCA member and Civil War re-enactor. And I used to work with a dba who was heavily into SCA, to the point where he spent months handcrafting a chain-mail shirt for himself. I knew another person who designs computer chips who was SCA as well.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanford</title>
		<link>http://sevenels.net/blog/?p=229&#038;cpage=1#comment-5172</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes sense, since a main goal of the makers of electronic gadgets is to make them as intuitive as possible, and to use a mechanism you will at least see the complexity if not be forced to understand it.  With electronic gadgets, you are invited to pretend it&#039;s all magic and you don&#039;t have to worry about it (which makes it even more infuriating when something goes wrong).

I&#039;ve also noticed a correlation between technical/technological aptitude and a liking for fantasy fiction and gaming, etc.  I&#039;d like to make a survey of SCA&#039;ers and see how many of them are into computers or other technologies.  At least a whole lot of them post photos on Flickr!  I suspect a survey like that would bear your observation out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes sense, since a main goal of the makers of electronic gadgets is to make them as intuitive as possible, and to use a mechanism you will at least see the complexity if not be forced to understand it.  With electronic gadgets, you are invited to pretend it&#8217;s all magic and you don&#8217;t have to worry about it (which makes it even more infuriating when something goes wrong).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also noticed a correlation between technical/technological aptitude and a liking for fantasy fiction and gaming, etc.  I&#8217;d like to make a survey of SCA&#8217;ers and see how many of them are into computers or other technologies.  At least a whole lot of them post photos on Flickr!  I suspect a survey like that would bear your observation out.</p>
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		<title>By: cheryl</title>
		<link>http://sevenels.net/blog/?p=229&#038;cpage=1#comment-5170</link>
		<dc:creator>cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fit this description but kind of by accident, I was an english major kind of person who somehow ended up on the periphery of the technical world as a tech writer. 

I am not so much burned out on technology per se as the technically-dominated way people communicate now. I of course love internets and blogs and e-mail, and am even guilty of sending the occasional text message, but the new paradigm of real-time living online with social networking just makes me tired. So much is getting lost in this obsession with screen time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fit this description but kind of by accident, I was an english major kind of person who somehow ended up on the periphery of the technical world as a tech writer. </p>
<p>I am not so much burned out on technology per se as the technically-dominated way people communicate now. I of course love internets and blogs and e-mail, and am even guilty of sending the occasional text message, but the new paradigm of real-time living online with social networking just makes me tired. So much is getting lost in this obsession with screen time.</p>
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		<title>By: olivander</title>
		<link>http://sevenels.net/blog/?p=229&#038;cpage=1#comment-5169</link>
		<dc:creator>olivander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thefedorachronicles.com/forum/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Fedora Chronicles Electric Speakeasy&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to check out <a href="http://www.thefedorachronicles.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">The Fedora Chronicles Electric Speakeasy</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: mpclemens</title>
		<link>http://sevenels.net/blog/?p=229&#038;cpage=1#comment-5161</link>
		<dc:creator>mpclemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fedora-wearing&quot;

Oh dear.  Guilty as charged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fedora-wearing&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh dear.  Guilty as charged.</p>
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